Agenda: Shires League Meeting


Saturday 25th June 2011, 11am to 1pm

at Harben House, Newport Pagnell, Bucks, MK16 9EY


1.  Welcome and apologies


Present at the meeting

Ian Rizzotto, League Secretary, Josie Smith, Badminton England, Malcolm Smith, Badminton England, Eric Brown, Badminton England, Derek Batchelor, Badminton England, Paul Adamson, Bedfordshire, Colin Pearson, Bedfordshire, Ian Douse, Buckinghamshire, John Lau, Buckinghamshire, Ruth Jefferies, Buckinghamshire, Daniel Bates, Cambridgeshire, Sandra Dennis, Cambridgeshire, Sue Brealey, Derbyshire, Helen Turrell, Essex, John Frisby, Hampshire, Kath Williams, Hampshire, Angela Blowers, Hertfordshire, Graham Hall, Hertfordshire, Pat Walker, Hertfordshire, Phil Westwood, Hertfordshire, Edward Strilesky, Kent, Steve White, Lancashire, Mandy Garnham, Lincolnshire, Nick Taylor, Northants, Chris Harrison, Nottinghamshire, Trevor Witts, Nottinghamshire, James Fisk, Oxfordshire, Steve Lunt, Staffordshire, David Driver, Suffolk, Lisa Jacobs, Suffolk, Trevor Davies, Suffolk, Yvonne Pears, Suffolk, Alan Cunningham, Surrey, Jackie Cunningham, Surrey, Kate Close, Warwickshire, Ceri Salter, Worcestershire, Jeff Salter, Worcestershire, Martin Adams, Yorkshire


Apologies were received from

Pete Chapman, Warwickshire, Carol Chapman, Warwickshire, Janice Mairs, Cheshire, Debbie Lovatt, Cumbria, Malcolm Slack, Devon, Helen Bennett, Sussex, Anna Gilkes, Leicestershire, Jane Lipton, Somerset, Steve Howard, Wiltshire, Richard Taylor, Northumberland, Jon Wotton, Cornwall.


Ian Rizzotto began the meeting by offering a vote of thanks to B.E for their support, both moral and financial; supplying shuttles for the final, arranging venue to hold AGM, including refreshments and buffet meal at the end and covering the subscription charges for Fixtures Live.


Derek Batchelor was pleased to be part of a very successful league. He went on to say the Comprehensive Spending Review was making things difficult and a number of issues were being considered for improvement.


Eric Brown was concerned about the confrontation between ICC and players required for both Shires League and adult leagues. He asked us to consider “What would you really like to see happening in Junior Badminton” – open sheet of paper to start from scratch – think outside the box.


In response Ian Rizzotto said that the feedback he had from members of the Shires League is very positive and asked those members who felt the same way to write to BE to state this fact. Whilst the future of the league is not at threat at present, this may not always be the case if its position is not defended and encouraged.


Shires League members were urged to send their proposals for improvement to BE well before May 2012, when decisions would be made for 2013.


2.  Appointment of League Secretary

The only nomination was Mr I Rizzotto.


3.  Appointment of Management Committee


Management Committee

A Management Committee consists of 4 members, plus a chairperson – the League Secretary.


Paul Adcock of Notts wishes to resign from the committee.

Jackie Cunningham and Phil Westwood are willing to continue in their role

Staffordshire and Suffolk were both asked to provide from representative from their county who would represent the management committee for 2011-2012. The named person will be needed by 01 10 2011.


4.  Matters for discussion / voting


Team selection problems

No need for any changes to be implemented or discussed further. Members were reminded that mixed pairs should be ranked and played 1st to 4th. Level Doubles matches should be ranked 1st and 2nd, despite the cross over and singles matches should be ranked 1st to 4th. A link to the policy document regarding seeding and ranking may be found in the Shires League Rules.


Shires League Groupings / Fixtures

Ian believed that the new grouping system had worked very well this year. The groupings for this year had been well received.


Shires League Final Play-off matches

We agreed to have an U17 play-off by 17votes in favour to 2 votes against.


We agreed to continue selecting teams for the play-off as in previous year.

15 votes for option (a), 4 votes for option (b), 0 votes for option (c)


Positions 1st to 4th in the league automatically invited to final. Play-offs; 5th v 12th, 6th v 11th, 7th v 10th and 8th v 9th on set date with positions 5th to 8th having the home advantage who will be responsible for pay for courts, shuttles and refreshments. Positions 9th to 12th must cover cost of transport and accommodation (if needed).


Provision of refreshments for visiting teams

Members were asked to remind team managers that refreshments should be provided at all matches including hot and cold drinks, sandwiches and cakes for both players, parents and officials. Where venues do not allow refreshments, the opposition should be told at the time of making/confirming the fixtures’ venue.


Late Match cancellation and making right any financial losses

The following proposal was agreed 18 votes for (b) with 1 vote for option (a)

Counties make right any financial costs incurred due to the late cancellation of a match, where cancellation could reasonably have been made in time to avoid charges. In cases of where the late cancellation could not have reasonably been foreseen, the two counties split any financial costs incurred eg adverse weather conditions.


Ranking of players for matches

Members were reminded that in a Shires League match, the four mixed pairings should be ranked 1st to 4th. The level doubles should be ranked 1st and 2nd, even though they take part in a cross over. Singles should be played in rank order 1st to 4th.


A ranking policy is available to download from within the Shires League Rules.


Promoting good sportsmanship

We agreed to promote good sportsmanship. Ian Rizzotto requests that county officials send an official report of any incidents of inappropriate sportsmanship, which was not adequately or satisfactorily dealt with on the day by the opposing team manager.


BE are in the process of producing documents listing expectations of officials, players and parents, which we hope to be able to use.


It is hoped in time that prior to all matches, players and parents will be reminded of the key issues by reading from a prepared “Code of Conduct”


5.  A.O.B.

No other items.


6.  Reminder of things that fixtures secretaries need to give league secretary


·         List of names, addresses, telephone numbers and e-mail address of each team manager, including U11 manager if required (friendly only.)

·         Confirm the date, time, age group, and venue of all your Shires League fixtures by 30 09 11

·         For counties fielding a second team, first team nominations by 30 09 11

·         Payment if not already done.


7.  Date and venue of next meeting

30 06 12. Probably same venue as today. Many good comments regarding venue and buffet provided.


8.  Fixtures

The last hour is given to making fixtures for the forthcoming season.