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Age groups for SL 2020-21

Hampshire and Derbyshire have asked me to add a fourth option to the list. I have used the proposal made by myself at the AGM last July as in essence it covers their recommendations. This option was either totally rejected at the AGM or received one vote.

Click here to see the voting so far

Following a request from Lancashire, I have added a chart below showing examples of dates of birth of players and their BE age category on different dates during 2020-22. Please bear in mind that for example an U16 player is eligible to play in U16, U17, U18, U19, U20 matches etc.

 

DOB of player Age group on Age group on Age group on Age group on Age group on Age group on Age group on Age group on Age group on
20/09/2020 15/11/2020 07/01/2021 11/03/2021 04/05/2021 16/07/2021 10/10/2021 19/12/2021 15/02/2022
02/03/2010 U11 U11 U12 U12 U12 U12 U12 U12 U13
17/08/2010 U11 U11 U12 U12 U12 U12 U12 U12 U13
13/01/2009 U12 U12 U13 U13 U13 U13 U13 U13 U14
28/09/2009 U12 U12 U13 U13 U13 U13 U13 U13 U14
18/02/2008 U13 U13 U14 U14 U14 U14 U14 U14 U15
23/11/2008 U13 U13 U14 U14 U14 U14 U14 U14 U15
20/04/2007 U14 U14 U15 U15 U15 U15 U15 U15 U16
24/12/2007 U14 U14 U15 U15 U15 U15 U15 U15 U16
30/01/2006 U15 U15 U16 U16 U16 U16 U16 U16 U17
02/06/2006 U15 U15 U16 U16 U16 U16 U16 U16 U17
11/05/2005 U16 U16 U17 U17 U17 U17 U17 U17 U18
09/09/2005 U16 U16 U17 U17 U17 U17 U17 U17 U18
07/02/2004 U17 U17 U18 U18 U18 U18 U18 U18 U19
15/08/2004 U17 U17 U18 U18 U18 U18 U18 U18 U19
24/03/2003 U18 U18 U19 U19 U19 U19 U19 U19 U20
20/10/2003 U18 U18 U19 U19 U19 U19 U19 U19 U20
27/02/2002 U19 U19 U20 U20 U20 U20 U20 U20 U21
01/12/2002 U19 U19 U20 U20 U20 U20 U20 U20 U21

 

If having studied the proposals, you don’t think you understand them, then please give me a ring on 01785 822624 and I will try and explain better.

 

If you have already voted and your opinion is still the same, do nothing. If you have already voted and you wish to change your mind, please let me know. Please make sure you vote before 30/03/2020. Depending on whether I receive other plans or the result of the preferred options, I will decide how to proceed on 31/03/2020.

 

We now have two significantly different choices; play the league over two BE age groups from September to June (options 1, 2  and 3) or play the league during one BE age group.

I shall add the votes together for options 1, 2 and 3 and compare with the total votes for option 4.

If the total votes for options 1, 2 and 3 is greater than the votes for option 4, option 4 will be dismissed and those people who voted for option 4 will have the opportunity to vote for options 1, 2 or 3.

If option 4 receives the most votes, options 1, 2 and 3 will be dismissed. We will then need a second vote to decide whether to play even or odd age groups.

 

Apart from Option 4, most of the information below is copied from the earlier email.

 

 

Base-line:

Current seasonSL 2019-20 Birth year Duration of age group category Future age group category
SL U12 2009 or later Remains U12 until 31/12/20 Becomes U13 on 01/01/21
SL U14 2007 Remains U14 until 31/12/20 Becomes U15 on 01/01/21
SL U16 2005 Remains U16 until 31/12/20 Becomes U17 on 01/01/21
SL U18 2003 Remains U18 until 31/12/20 Becomes U19 on 01/01/21
SL U20 2001 Remains U20 until 31/12/20 Becomes U21 on 01/01/21

 

Option 1

Players begin the league from 01/09/20 at an even age group (eg U12, U14, U16, U18, U20) up to 31/12/20 and complete the season (from 01/01/21 to 30/06/21) at the next odd age group (eg U12 to U13, U14 to U15, U16 to U17, U18 to U19 and U20 to U21

 

We consider adopting a new name for the league:-

Old name New name Birth year
SL U12 SL U12>13 2009 or later
SL U14 SL U14>15 2007
SL U16 SL U16>17 2005
SL U18 SL U18>19 2003
SL U20 SL U20>21 2001

 

Up to 31/12/20, all even age players will continue playing at the top of their age group whilst the odd age group players will play at the top of their age group in most gold, silver and bronze events. On 01/01/21 everyone will move up an age group. And from 01/01/21, all odd age will be at the top of their age group for both SL and BE events, while even age players will be younger section for both SL and BE events.

 

For subsequent seasons, the league name will remain identical and the birth year will move up one year (eg. SL U12>13 birth year would become 2010 or later)

 

Mark Downie (BE) opinion:-

Option 1 is effectively a ‘replay’ of the current SL season because the season of the age group is extended into December ‘U12’ now is the same as ‘U12’ in September so you have accepted the same age group. By keeping U12 then you could be making it more difficult for the younger players to get into the lowest team, and giving the oldest players another year. This might be preferable depending on how well youngest age teams are fielded and what retention is like at the top with plyers going off to university etc.

 

 

Option 2

Players begin the league on 01/09/20 at an odd age group (eg U11, U13, U15, U17, U19) up to 31/12/20 and complete the season (01/01/21 to 30/06/21) at the next even age group (eg U11 to U12, U13 to U14, U15 to U16, U17 to U18 and U19 to U20

 

We consider adopting a new name:-

Old name New name Birth year
SL U12 SL U11>12 2010 or later
SL U14 SL U13>14 2008
SL U16 SL U15>16 2006
SL U18 SL U17>18 2004
SL U20 SL U19>20 2002

 

Up to 31/12/20, all odd age will be at the top of their age group for both SL and BE events, while even age players will be younger section for both SL and BE events. On 01/01/21 everyone will move up an age group. And from 01/01/21, all even age will be at the top of their age group for both SL and BE events, while odd age players will be younger section for both SL and BE events.

 

For subsequent seasons, the league name will remain identical and the birth year will move up one year (eg. SL U11>12 birth year would become 2011 or later)

 

Mark Downie (BE) opinion:-

Option 2 would reflect moving the players forward a year in the competition as you have brought the age group in September forward by from ‘U12’ to ‘U11’ which moves it from players born 2009 or later to 2010 or later.

 

 

Option 3

We reset the age group boundaries so that age groups run from 1st September to 31st August. This would put SL players in a different age group to Badminton England age group for at least part of the year. This could be confusing to players, plus the BE software would not work properly on the BE website, eg rejecting over age players etc.

 

Renaming the league to something that does not mention age may be a way forward here. (Suggestions made below, but open to better ones!) However, we would have to decide how to police the BE system so that players that were over-age, were not used in matches.

 

Old name New name Age eligibility
SL U12 SL Primary 01/09/2009 or later
SL U14 SL Junior 01/09/2007 or later
SL U16 SL Youth 01/09/2005 or later
SL U18 SL Higher 01/09/2003 or later
SL U20 SL Major 01/09/2001 or later

 

For subsequent seasons, the league name will remain identical and the age eligibility will move up one year (eg. SL Primary would become 01/09/2010 or later)

 

Option 4

Age groups are entirely in line with BE age groups.

 

The 2021 season starts on the 01/01/2021 and ends on 31/12/2021

SL matches so that matches are played from 1st January until 31st May at the age groups U12, U14, U16, U18 and U20 OR U11, U13, U15, U17, U19, (U21?)

Play-offs are played in June/early July.

Finals in September.

Plan for next season in October/November.

Have AGM in November and make fixtures for next season.

 

Ian Rizzotto (League Secretary)